September 3rd, 2009 by Junde

Bucking the Trend: Singaporean applies for Chinese PR

In recent times, Gong Li, Jet Li and various other Chinese media and business people have successfully attained Singaporean Citizenship/Permanent Residence. They see the little island-state as a safe, stable, and well-developed surrounding for their new young families to nuture.

Gong Li became a Singaporean

Gong Li became a Singaporean

Buckin the trend, Edward Lu is a 27 year old Singaporean living and working here in Guangzhou, China, who is also in the process of applying for a Chinese Permanent Residence. I have a chat with him to find out his motivations..

Interview with Edward Lu, Singaporean Entrepreneur in GZ

Junde(JD): Hoseh boh? 
Edward(ED): Sibei swee. Can start the interview or not?
 
JD: Ok. Can you tell us how you landed here in Guangzhou?
ED: I was born In Singapore, and graduated with a Diploma in Business from Ngee Ann Polytechnic specializing in Leisure Management. I performed National Service for 2.5 years and came to China directly after that in early 2004. After working for a year in a Singaporean-Taiwanese venture company in Guangzhou, I established own company providing international logistics and trading services from China. Our company has offices/warehouses in Guangzhou, Yiwu and Singapore.
 

JD: Why are you going against the wave, applying for a Chinese PR?
ED: I do it mainly for practical business reasons. Firstly as a Chinese PR you pay less tax. Next, to set up new businesses, you do not need to partner with a local to register the company. Finally, you no longer need any working or travel visa to enter/stay in the country.
 

JD: Very practical benefits. How does one qualify?
ED: Basically, you need to have stayed in China for a few years, with a substantial local investment and revenue record for at least 3 years. Alternatively, you can marry a local person, and you get PR after 5 years of happy marriage.
 
JD: Haha, second route sounds more interesting. Do you intend to marry a local girl? How do you compare local Chinese girls with Singaporean girls?
ED: Why not? If the right person comes along. My career here has taken off and I’m definitely looking forward to my next phase of life. From my limited personal experiences, I find that the local girls I have encounterd are more gentle, and less career-minded. This is not to say that the opposite of Singaporean girls is a negative thing. Singapore is a modern, well-developed and highly competitive country and it is only natural that people would be more materialistic. I am a materialistic person myself too, but I get them cheaper in China :p
 
JD: If you get married here, would you like to have your children educated here?
ED: I would prefer the education in Singapore. Some say that our education there is very influenced by government propaganda, but I think it depends on the individual. I like the way I turned out and with some luck I’ll like the way my kids grow up and turn out in Singapore too. Besides, education without subsidy here is expensive!
 
JD: How about doing business here? How is it different from Singapore?
ED: To a certain extent, the Singapore retail market is saturated. If you sell 100 plates of Chicken Rice today, next month, you might sell 80 plates or 120 plates. It’s +/- 10%. Here in China, if you start of by selling 10 plates in the first month, next month, you might be selling 1000 plates. The growth potential is immense as you are not just catering to the whole Chinese market, but also to all foreign businesses who have turned their attention to China in recent years.
 

Edward Lu praying for stability

Edward praying for stability

JD: What about your personal and social life? Do you like it here?
ED: Yes, definitely. I enjoy the freedom I have here. I don’t seek to participate in politics, all I seek is my personal freedom. As a laowai (technically) out of my hometown, I feel less inhibited, I make more friends and do more things. I also get to smoke in public places and restaurants. The cost of living in Guangzhou is also much cheaper than Singapore, so we get to enjoy a better lifestyle while we’re younger. In Singapore we would need to have worked for a few more years before enjoying the kind of life we lead here today.
 
JD: So you’ve told me about all the practical benefits, and about everything you appreciate about living here in Guangzhou. How much of it is motivation for your Chinese PR application? What does the Chinese PR mean to you?
ED: Frankly, it’s more for practical business benefits. I am not someone who would forget my Singaporean roots. Although I do not have Chinese nationalistic fervour in me, I also do contribute back to society here. For instance, I am sit in the executive committee of the Guangzhou Singapore Club who organises social and charity events for the community here in Guangzhou.
 
JD: Would you encourage more Singaporeans, or expats in general, to follow in your footsteps, to apply for a Chinese PR?
ED: It is up to individual. But most of the foreigners I’ve met here during the past years certainly do enjoy their life and work here, so why not?

 
JD: What is your favourite KTV song?
ED: BETTER MAN by Nicholas Tse

 
JD: Thanks Edward for your time. Interested readers can also read 9 reasons why Singaporeans should work in China..
ED: Fuwuyuan! Mai Dan!

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28 Responses to “Bucking the Trend: Singaporean applies for Chinese PR”

  1. Carol says:

    nice interview…

  2. Carol says:

    btw,who pays the bills in the end? and why have to mention which song he likes to sing in KTV?
    does it have any connection with the PR he wants to apply for? so if he said”i like 三套車or 青藏高原”….it would be much easier to get the PR?

  3. edward says:

    王昭君

  4. Junde says:

    @Carol KTV song - just for fun, since Singaporeans here like to go PartyWorld KTV. I bought the bill - all interview subjects will be treated to lunch/dinner for free. Next topic I am planning is “Taiwanese in China. Suffering? or Enjoying?”

  5. Pearly Koh says:

    Nice… I have a 1 year Business Visa but still have to do the exit/re-entry thingy every 60 days. Getiing PR status seems like a refreshing idea…

    I ship weekly out of GZ so I’ll definitely checkout Edward’s website link, thanks Junde for including it, I was about to ask you for it.

    One thing is for sure, the quality of life (as in work-life balance), seems to be better here in Guangzhou.

    Well, at least, after reading the articles below, I rather invest in a property in SZ or GZ..

    Debunking the official myths about HDB flats (Part 1): Singaporeans are owners of their HDB flats
    http://temasekreview.com/?p=12267

    Debunking the official myths about HDB flats (Part 2): HDB flats are affordable to the most Singaporeans
    http://temasekreview.com/?p=12273

    Debunking the HDB myths (Part 3): Rising prices of HDB flats generate wealth for Singaporeans
    http://temasekreview.com/?p=12247

  6. puneet ( PK ) says:

    Nice interview

  7. Jonathan says:

    Nice article, I am wondering if Edward is using a lawyer or undertaking this process on his own.

    I also do not think he is “Bucking the Trend” as he is not changing his citizenship, he just wants PR status. These movie stars were looking for a new passport. I doubt Edward is looking for a PRC Passport. The Singaporean Passport is one of the best!

  8. edward says:

    yes jonathan , u knew me best

  9. Carol says:

    @ed….王昭君 is too hard to sing…(and it’s a taiwanese song as well)
    @junde…yeah….plz treat me in some classic restaurant…you know taiwanese here are all poor….so that you use the word”suffering”…..–__–

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  14. edward says:

    @JD , u r being spammed

  15. Junde says:

    @Edward
    I know, but everyone recognises them as spam so it’s ok. It’s actually negative publicity they are doing for themselves in such a scenario. quite typical in china

  16. me says:

    can all lao wais apply for pr? even americants?

  17. Junde says:

    @me yes I think all lao wais (americants, japanese, singaporeans, jamaicans, aliens) should be able to apply as long as you satisfy the rough criterion described in the blog post

  18. Andrew C says:

    This is a pretty good interview. At least now I know how I can get a China PR. The “every 2 months-need to travel to hong kong - get passport stamped” is getting veryyyy irritating.

    Thanks for this!

  19. Junde says:

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    would’ve been great if they had cited the reference source though

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    Then as a China PR, do you have 2 passport?
    China PR got wad benefit?

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